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Karmic Astrology: Bonds of Saturn and Pluto

“Why you?” The person hurting us most might be a creditor coming to collect debt from a past life. Spiritual reasons for ill-fated (Saturn) and destructive (Pluto) relationships.

Karmic Astrologer• 16 min read

Introduction: No Bad Ties, Only Necessary Ones

In life, we meet someone we thought was a "Soulmate" who becomes a "Mortal Enemy". We run but get entangled, try to cut but can't. In astrology, this is called a 'Karmic Relationship'. They did not come to torment us. They are Strict Teachers coming to teach soul lessons we defined. At the center are Saturn and Pluto.

Core Concept: The Creditor and The Destroyer

In Synastry charts, strong ties occur when planets of two people form tight aspects (especially 0, 90, 180 degrees).

1. Saturn: "Take Responsibility" (Superglue)

  • Trait: Heavy. Stifling. But cannot break up. Bound by duty and responsibility.
  • Role: Relationship repaying Past Life Debt (Karma).
    • If my Saturn suppresses their personal planets (Moon, Venus): I try to control them (Teacher), and they feel suffocated by me (Student).
  • Lesson: Patience, Reality, Boundaries. Relationship doesn't end until debt is paid. (e.g., divorce suit lasting 10 years).

2. Pluto: "Transform or Die" (Blast Furnace)

  • Trait: Intense. Obsessive. Scratching each other to the bottom. Fatal attraction sexually/emotionally.
  • Role: Death and Transformation of Self.
    • If my Pluto touches their Venus: Becomes 'Power Game' not love. Possessiveness, Jealousy, Manipulation.
  • Lesson: Surgery cutting out rotten parts. This love makes us born again as completely different people.

Deep Dive: Ties of the South Node

Planets are important, but Lunar Nodes are too.

  • When their planet Conjuncts my South Node:
    • "Have we met?" (Déjà vu). Very comfortable at first. Family or lover in past life.
    • Trap: Comfortable but no growth. Repeats past patterns and holds you back. Often ties must be released to move toward North Node (Future).

Practical Application: How to End This Pain

Karmic relationships are painful because we Resist.

  1. If Saturn Tie: Don't run. Face the realistic responsibility required. When bearing that weight silently, Saturn gifts a 'Gem' (Result) and leaves coolly.
  2. If Pluto Tie: Let go of obsession. Give up desire to change them. Realize not "You must die for me to live" but "Old Me must die for New Me to live".

Conclusion: No Meeting is Coincidence

That person making you cry all night might be the most loving soul companion who promised before coming to Earth, "I'll play the villain this life to help you grow." Instead of hating, ask. "Which part of my soul is this relationship stimulating?" When the homework is done, the relationship resolves (Healing) or ends beautifully (Graduation).

References:

  • Stephen Arroyo, Astrology, Karma & Transformation
  • Jeffrey Wolf Green, Pluto: The Evolutionary Journey of the Soul

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